Same Kind Of Different Flashcards

0
Q

First white person i spoke to since i was 15

A
Miss debbie. 
When 15 walking in open 1950 ford on we from my aunties
He offered help
Asked for jack
Three boys came and taunted
Lady did nothing
Boy made noose around neck
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1
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Author

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Ron hall
Denver moore
Lynn vincent

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2
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Denver lived

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On plantation 200 acres, pecan trees, in louisianna, cotton fields

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3
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Story about boy who whistled

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Beattil his eye fell out then tied to a cotton gin and thrown from a bridge

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4
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Slavery

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Supposedly ended but worked for free, lived in sheck, owned two overalls all in red river parish

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5
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Train

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Made him dream of places black people got paid….jumped on and went to fort worth texas

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6
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Couldnt read write was homeless alot til he met n

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Miss debbie nosiest skinniest woman he ever met

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7
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We meet hall on a

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Tarmac near a mercedes with okeefe paintings

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8
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Hall

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Used to sell campbells soup, then was a banker now an art dealer. Low middle class to upper.

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9
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Hall didnt hang alot of art in place

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Because of the derelicts…they probably came in to et out of heat but hall was afraid they were casing it..had smash and grab of cash and jewelry a few days later….fixed his idea of homeless people

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10
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Denvers nickname

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Lil buddy because pawpaw carried him around. Mom was too young

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11
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Family structure in bayou

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Different varied extended because they were poor. Rare nuclear family.

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12
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Sharecropper

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Man owned land
Letyou use 
Buy seed and clothes from him on credit
You work free
Share half profit with man
Man only one that can weigh cotton
Man owned land and you
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13
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Roosevelt

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White people said he was trying to make things better for blacks

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14
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Cold would stick its hand up

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Through floor

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15
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Sick
Big
Eight flour sack dresses

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Bigmama

Denvers grandma

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16
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Denvers first tragedy

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At six, big mama wentto bed after getting two red devil pills cause her legs gave her fits, cat jumped and meowed could see smoke

Shooed cat
Went to bigmama
No flames 
Pawpaw at work
Work bro thurman
Hit him
Chimney and roof on fire
Back to bigmama
Roof ready to cave
He crawled to backdoor
Hear her wake up cough pray when roof fell in
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17
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In the 50s the social order of the south

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Was lie charcoal in snow
Plain to the eye
Blacks had their own area niggertown
Many worked for halls grandaddy
Nice folks lived there 
Nigger bill
Nigger moses
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18
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No real names

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No checks
No forms
Didnt own shotgun houses

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19
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Whaat lived under shotgun houses

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Mongrel dogs

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20
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Workers would board trucks

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To work cotton field, grandady would buy lunch with marked canteens to drink eat on floor

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21
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White workers

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Gathered for dinner at the house, white black got paid same and he made loans to blacks who paid them back

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22
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Denver went to live with

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Beebee his dad who had a car also heavyset and was popular with ladies

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23
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Beebee didnt go to church

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Because two of his girlfriends and husbands were there. Beebee would listen with kids from car outside .

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24
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Preacher delivery

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From lulluby to full sweat

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25
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Offering plate

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Would come out the window

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26
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Bebe never came back because

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Car broke down
Or
Car was sabotauged

Man stabbed him out of woods

Might have been a husband

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27
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They then went

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With uncle janes in a wagon

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28
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New kind of slave

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Sharecropper

Two massas
One who owned land
One who owned store

Always in hole

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29
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James moved

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To plantation from sharecropping

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30
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Uncle james mule named

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Jennie

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31
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When working the brothers

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Planting seeds
Looking for army worms
Worked with uncle and aunt
Women cooked inside men cooked whisky in woods

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32
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Who moonshined

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White and black people

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33
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Cook possum

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Burn hair off
Boil him get grease out
No store just for salt and pepper
Food came from woods or ground

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34
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Where did you get cornbread

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Put corn thru mill get meal and put on bill

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35
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Christmas gift

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Two pigs to hang in smokehouse nothing went to waste
From rooter to tooter
Eat anything but skunk

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36
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Uncle james whip

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With a switch from a pecan tree for visiting a girl

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37
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Black religion

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Baptist and social center of every plantation

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38
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Field hand would drive everyone in a wagon

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To baptist church

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39
Q

Preacher

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Brother brown the field hand could read bible

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40
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When denver was 12

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He was dressed in white and dunked in the river with 4 other baptized and had dinner on the ground… Srange to be in water in clothes because he usually swam naked

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41
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What did he look for during baptism

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Gators … Sunk to the bottom and didnt know he was supposed to come back up he popped up down river

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42
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What happened to uncle james

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He died and aunt effa moved away the boys got split up and he moved with his sister or auntie not sure where brother went

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43
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Dont need no calendar

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You only gotta be where you gotta be

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44
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White boys ambushed

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Black boys using logs to cross river to get to school. Told them to wade. Had stick rock war. White boys won.

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45
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Keep eyes down

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To avoid confrontation.

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46
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White boys

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Hung him in noose horses dragging by saddle

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47
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Who drove by

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Plantation wife with a car and shotgun drove him to aunties in bed a week….thre him off a little in life

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48
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Deborah and rons religion was

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Methodists on sundays until 1973 for a six week discussion group on life because they were seen as nonbelievers. No fish on bumper

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49
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Where was discussion group

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Mccoys with 20 couples …. Saved and saved not.

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50
Q

Addressed group on existence, death etc

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Kirby coleman

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51
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Are you sure you are going to heaven

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By daddy paved the church parking lot

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52
Q

Who said lets pray sinners prayer

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Ron

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53
Q

Who cross-examined gospel

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Deborah then she payed the prayer too

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54
Q

Even with 500 bifocals

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I can not see inside hearts

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55
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3 or 4 close plantations with different men one gave him

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A shack and outhouse
Lower than a sharecropper
Crack
Children of croppers who just stayed for place to live
Before slaves were freed plantations were self sufficient and had training
Now could only work land and tractors dried that up

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56
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Plantation owner didnt share

A
Information on
Schooling
Trading
Army
Radio
Telephone
Electricity
Running water

Fell through a crack in time in louisianna

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57
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Thurman was in

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California and a 27 28 year old brother jumps a train to see him….still owe for overalls

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58
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When he was 32 in 1977, the art dealer

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Paid 275000 for a williamsburg colonial in fort worth
Supportive wife
Charity auctions 1000 plate
Deborah couldnt wrap head around decorations and dres

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59
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Art dealer travels to

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New york
Paris
Florence
Skiing
Wine

Moved to million dollar house knocked it down had convertible in Dallas

Cars
Armani suits

Deborah plugged into god in ministry with aids babies

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60
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Deb and ron had separate loves

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His success, maybe art money

Hers to know god maybe children

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61
Q

Billy graham rule

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Never be alone with woman whois not your wife

Ron met painter. White wine. She was looking for career help. Not his wit. Beverly hills painter

Only saw her twice then told deb.

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62
Q

How did deb findout

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He told friend
Friend told wife
Wife said you tell or i will

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63
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Ron blamed

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Her disinterest.

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64
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After meeting with pastor

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They agreed to work things out

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65
Q

What did deb do

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Call mistress and forgave her then promised to be a better wife and rewrite future history but they had to go to counseling

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66
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First train stop

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Dallas first time out of state. Railroad police came. Jumped trains. We to fort worth than California where he was always in trouble. Hard to find work.

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67
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Hobo heaven

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Fort worth

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68
Q

Get grub scraping up dollar
Coat tie type give quick dollar
Others wAnt to help

Why want a dollar

A

Hamburger drop

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69
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What is a hamburger drop

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Stick wrapped burger in trash, pick up eat, someone gives you money for eTing your own garbage…enough for decent meal

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70
Q

Antifreeze for homeless

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Jim beam

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71
Q

Where good bath

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Fort worth water garden….afternoon pretend to push one in …. Soap up under water. Climb up bake dry in sun like anials in woods trying to survive.

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72
Q

Denver got a few jobs through

A

The Labor force
25
Less3 for lunch
Less 2 for ride

20cant even get you a bed

But can buy booze to forget

73
Q

Denver couldnt get job

A
Couldnt
ReAd
Write 
Have clothes
Paper work
74
Q

Rons new affair

A

His wife

75
Q

Rockytop

A

350 acre ranch
Anchor
Geographically and otherwise
Velcro hearts

76
Q

Ron and deb in 1998 moved back to eastward

A

Fort worth…3 days later a paper told her about a volunteer opportunity at union gospel mission…then a letter came from a friend regarding same thing

77
Q

Deb feared

A
Yellowjackets
Ski slopes black diamond 
Black ice
Rattlesnakes
And one other thing missing gods call
78
Q

Code of honor in hobo jungle

A

Split vienna sausage, six pack and dope

79
Q

Denver earned respect

A

With fists at telephone, in hobo box

80
Q

After pipe incident

A

Went back to Louisiana with a 22 where he robbed a bus but didnt get money got off bus instead wouldnt shoot law on him in texas and shreveport made up name thomas moore

81
Q

Where did denver go in 1968

A

Angola prison for 20 years

82
Q

Who gave denver a knife

A

Someone he met in shreveport jail

83
Q

The guards at angila

A

Pointed guns

84
Q

In the years he was in

A

40 prisoners died 100s were cut

85
Q

He was in jail

A

10 years then went back to ft worth

86
Q

Slept on street

A

15 to 20 years not ready to move inside then moved in where e cleaned for his keep…denver

87
Q

When deb was little she

A

Started a fire club where her friends stole matches for her to use

Bucket of frogs on ladies

Not afraid of much

88
Q

Ft worth good example of

A

Haves and

Have nots

89
Q

1998 string of people

A

Going to mission

90
Q

Reached mission deb spoke

A

In a tone that said hear me on this. I picture this place differently. White fence yellow flowers. Beautiful like rocky top. I had a dream. I saw it changed.

91
Q

Mission director

A

Don shissler.

92
Q

Volunteer coordinator

A

Pam

93
Q

Chef

A

Chain smoking
Live wire
Jim

94
Q

Jims suggestion

A

Serve meal once a week over the counter and out the back door….they chose tuesday

95
Q

Society sees homeless

A

As lazy and not the hidden pearl

96
Q

Deb saw in a dream

A

A man

97
Q

Cost of meal at mission

A

Listen to preacher tough love message but seemed manipulative to ron

Blind brother bill

No one ever came out praising

98
Q

Huge angry black man yelling

A

About stolen shoes….it was the man from her dreams….in his 60s… Loner….yellow eyes….hardly spoke…poker face…no eye contact…face stone slate

They thought his name was dallas

99
Q

Why did ron say hi to dallas

A

To please deb not god
Found out his name was denver not dallas
As appoachable as an electric fence

100
Q

Denver said mission was fine

A
Until white couple
Attacking me
Cornering me
Told her not to mess 
Getting smart with me
Could get hurt
101
Q

Skill to be homeless

A

Know whos who
Whats what
Stay away from me
She wasnt scared of me with her spiritual eyes
What do volunteers want are they the law’?
Asking to many questions - skeptical
Didnt just come on holidays like other guilty

102
Q

How long for ron to have change of heart about tuesdays

A

Months. Started to look at tuesdays lie days at rocky top.

Wanted to lend ear or be example.

103
Q

Debs goal

A

Change lives not just serve macaroni. First idea beauty shop night, comb lice, style hair, give pedicures, facials, makeovers. Then movie night.

Caring caused metamorphosis

Then birthday night.

104
Q

Rons realization

A

Denver might not e nut case but might see something he didn’t lie in him. That was when denver finally spoke,

105
Q

Where did ron take denver

A

To a restaurant for the first time. Ron was glad they were out of buttermilk because it made him gag to watch.

106
Q

Denver dropped his head at breakfast and

A

Asked ron a personal question…what is your name. In his circle you dont ask nobody his name. Ron hall.

Mr ron.

Deborah

Miss debbie

107
Q

If denver opened up to debbie and others saw

A

It would hurt his survival.

108
Q

Denver asked ron

A

What you want from me…. Answer….i just want to be your friend….let me think about that

109
Q

Folks at e mission think ron and debbie are from

A

Cia because they are always asking name and birthdate

110
Q

What did denver find strange

A

That people line up to pay 3 for coffee

111
Q

Denver thought Starbucks barista talk

A

Was the start of a rumble

112
Q

How long did denver think about becoming rons friend

A

One week

113
Q

Denvers concern about white folk

A

Catch and release fishing

Blacks use to sustain

Whites go to trouble to release

Maybe they do the same with friends

114
Q

Denver wore layers of street

A

A mile thick

115
Q

Denvers first thought about ronsfriendship

A

What does he want?
I didn’t like it.
Being a friend is a heavy commitment more than a husband or wife.
Friends is like soldiering together. Live together die together.
Fair exchange aint robbery.
Even swap straight down the line.
If you is looking for areal friend then i is one forever.
Ron felt humbled and promised not to catch and release.
They hugged outside starbucks.

116
Q

Ron and denver talked over coffee

A

Met once a week for coffee.
Talked about 20th century slavery of debt bondage.
After lincoln, plantations used legal tricks
Army in charge of south
Then came sharecropping a devils bargain
Crack in plantation south that caused fissure
Meager sustenance no education lots of debt
Ron realized not too far off from his grandaddy story

117
Q

Denver did not think the man

A

Was not a bad fellow

Just doing his thing

118
Q

Why did denver think the key ring weird

A

Do you own something for all those keys or do they own you

119
Q

God spoke to denver all those years and ron

A

Felt privilege to listen

120
Q

When you are precious to god, denver warned, you are

A

Important to satan. Something would happen to debbie

121
Q

April 1, debbie went to gym then

A

Annual physical. Something found in abdomen. Did sonogram then sent to hospital. Shadows on liver

122
Q

Next day scheduled

A

Colonoscopy

123
Q

Got to hospital

A

20 people prayed during test, 50 during surgery

124
Q

Bible story

A

Giants in promised land

125
Q

Who did denver pray with for debbie

A

Chef jim

126
Q

Poor people

A

Prayed and gave what they had

127
Q

How many years were they married when cancer struck

A

3 decades

128
Q

Is it in my liver

A

Yes but there is still hope. But ron didnt know how to cry

129
Q

Denver prayed a vigil

A

Near the dumpster . Prayed for her to heal and asked him why when she followed works of mercy. He answered with shooting star. God decides where stars fall.accept what you dont understand. Most important job he ever had.

130
Q

A year had passed since doctor call, she talked

A

About friends in chemo labs, future weddings,grandchildren at rocky top talked about all living not death. Had another surgery. First cancer free than cancer in other places

131
Q

Ron hoped god would buff up

A

And perform miracle

132
Q

New cancer drug

A

Cpt11 tried in san antonio. But was a disaster for her burning cramps, ravaged her and she started planning memorial…went to er than private room.then to doctor for private room….maybe 3 days didnt square with prayers….clock cant be turned back

133
Q

Denver said ron watching deb die

A

Was like watching roof fall on bigmama

134
Q

Denver said our limitation

A

Is gods opportunity. Leave it up to god. Sometimes to touch us god touches someone close to us.

135
Q

Denver told ron

A

I know you are questioning god. God calls good ones home to bring glory to his name. She will go when she is finished her work….take that to the bank.

136
Q

The next day doctors suggested a last step

A

Colonoscopy that could kill her

137
Q

How do you live the rest of your life

A

In just days

138
Q

Deb seized for how many hours

A

Four

139
Q

Denver came to the house

A

With word from the lord, this simple man was dialed into god, said She was ready to go to paradise. Saints on earth had a chain. Told deb to lay down the torch and i will pick it up. Denver said pray with him to let deb go. When her work was done.

140
Q

Denver cried

A

Over coffee with mr ron. Then went to miss debbie . Put his head behind her she opened her eyes and said he would minister to the homeless. Go on home in peace. Farewell see you on the other side. 3 days later buried at rocky top.

141
Q

What did they spread at funeral

A

Blue bonnet seeds

142
Q

Miss debbie with denver

A

Looked past skin and meanness and looked inside. She loved him enough to stand up to him

143
Q

The next day at church was a

A

Celebration, 1000 people gathered and talked for two hours

144
Q

Denver spoke at church and said

A

In a rousing voice a message about courage hope and the love of a woman. God prompted him to pickup her torch.

145
Q

They prayed for a miracle and

A

Got one in denver.

146
Q

Denver knew ron became his friend because

A

Ms debbie told him too. And denver was afraid that mr ron would cut him loose soon, ron took him to help fix up by debbies grave and collect rocks for three days

147
Q

What did he do to get comfortable

A
Opened door
Tented blanket in bed
Heard footsteps in room
Peace came over him
Soft hands tucked blankets
Heard ms debbie say you are welcome in our home
It was no dream because he was not sleeping
Knew mr ron was actually his friend
He fell into deep sleep
148
Q

What did they do with rocks

A

Built pillars for gates and for a fence for six days.

149
Q

Name of cemetery

A

Brasos del dio the arms of god

150
Q

Denver had something to tell ron as they were working

A

He saw ms debbie the other night. In a visitation. Everything he said has always been true. Ron began to believe things that he before would not have believed.

151
Q

Ron to denver relationship

A

First at deborahs insistence
Then some henry higgins to the homeless
Then not to catch and release
Then a new step… Where ron too said forever

152
Q

Deb dreamed of

A

Bringing beauty to east of Lancaster. She didn’t get fences and flowers but did sow compassion.

New mission 10 feet of red dirt ready to recieve the kernel for women and children and the deborah hall memorial chapel. Sick and lost found hope. Fruit of her death. Denver. 100s of women and children.

153
Q

Sunday after groundbreaking at new baptist church in se fort worth

A

Heard denver speak at debs funeral, pastor wanted denver to preach…..prayed for standing room only crowd but they were somewhere else. Only a few were there. The pastor looked like a black abraham lincoln.

154
Q

How did denver want to be described instead of giving his background to the congregation

A

As a nobody
Thats trying to tell everybody
About somebody
That can save anybody

155
Q

Denver took pulpit he got

A

Louder pulling people off the street. The pastor said i believe that gid wants denver come back to teach a revival. Like deborah said, there was a wise man in the city ….

156
Q

Denver used to worry that

A

He was different from homeless. Fromdeb and ron. But we are all different. We are all homeless working our way toward home.

157
Q

What did ron bring histeacher

A

A cup ofurine and he had to stand with his nose on a chalkboard circle

158
Q

What did ron steal from debbue

A

Her ford stock graduation present

159
Q

Denvers grown sister

A

Hershalee

160
Q

What happened on thanksgiving

A

The turkey flew away

161
Q

Who warned of the fire

A

Cat

162
Q

Mule or horse

A

Mule

163
Q

Tea of toadstools and cow patty

A

Cow-lip tea

164
Q

What shirts were the college bys wearing

A

Madras

165
Q

Rons moms name

A

Tommye

166
Q

Blind date made fun of rons

A

Shoes

167
Q

What can grasshoppers do

A

Spit

168
Q

Denvers childhood whit friend

A

Bobby

169
Q

What was the first new thing denver owned

A

A schwinn bike

170
Q

What did ron witness on the freeway in dalla

A

The presidents motorcade

171
Q

At denvers baptism his aunt thought

A

He drowned

172
Q

Where did ron serve for two years

A

Albuqurque

173
Q

Who bought rons first painting

A

Goldberg aka snookems

174
Q

Where did ron and debtake the homeless

A

To a concert

175
Q

Where did sr bettie serve lunch

A

Thelot

176
Q

Wy was denver in the hospital

A

Constipated

177
Q

Whybdid denver praybfor deb at night

A

Because other people prayed all day

178
Q

Who was mr ballantines angel in the nursing home

A

Denver

179
Q

Debs last job on earth

A

To have michael feel god

180
Q

Denvers au t

A

Pearlie may

181
Q

Paternalism

A

Black people were childlike and better off like slaves