Class 2 HYPOTHETICALS Flashcards
RECAP: Review of law of finders Who is a finder? What does a finder do? 2 parts of being a finder
What about a finder versus someone who owns land?
What about mislaid v lost property
What is a bailment?
Finder has right over other possessors (but not true owner) AND is someone who takes possession and has intent to maintain possession of the property.
- something found on private property will give them better rights then a finder.
mislaid v lost property as well
A bailment is the rightful possession of goods who is not the owner.
You are helping your friend clean out his pool for the winter. After the water is drained out, you are at the bottom of the pool scrubbing the pool floor, when you see a glimmer coming from the drain area. You go over to the drain area and find a woman’s necklace. You know it’s not your friend’s because he is a live-alone bachelor. You show it to him, and he says he’s never seen it before. But a dispute ensues about who gets to sell it and keep the money.
Who has the right to the necklace? You or your friend?
The friend as he owns the house as it is lost property and is on private property. even though he didn’t know of it, it is still his.
John, while shopping at a department store, discovers that his watch band just broke. He wants to take it over to the watch counter – which is on the other side of the department store – but he wants to finish his shoe purchase first. As a result, John lays his watch, with the broken band, on a counter near the shoe displays. He intends to grab it when he’s done buying the shoes.
Frank sees the watch and takes it. Frank looks around for someone to inquire about this lost watch, but John had forgotten to take the watch with him when he left the department store, and the sales clerk said she had never seen the watch before.
Is this watch lost or mislaid
It is mislaid. thus the owner of the place will get the watch.
What if the watch is sold and then the true owner claims it?
The true owner would get the necklace, the money would go back to the person who bought the necklace, and the person who sold it get nothing. Everyone WHOLE.
Abandonment rule/property
Once the owner abandons property, ownership goes to the finder.
How are treasure troves treated?
What if buried into the land?
Treated like lost or mislaid property. If lost finder gets it, if mislaid then the owner gets it.
If buried in ground, goes to owner of the land. It was not mislaid when buried, it was lost.
You are helping a friend dig a new garden in your friend’s back yard when you find, buried several inches below the surface, an old tin box containing old silver bullion coins. It turns out these coins are worth $25,000.
Who is entitled to the box?
Your friend as they own the property and it was buried.
Jacque v Steenberg Homes
Person did not want this other company to drive across his property and he did anyways.
Right to exclude is the most important things you can have in private property.
What is civil trespass?
An unprivileged intentional encroachment on another’s property and intent is not required.
You are allowed to trespass if the person gives consent or there is necessity.
Jane, while doing a solo 5-mile hike, unknowingly walked across John’s private property.
Civil Trespass?
Yes even without intent.
Commonwealth v Magadini 2016
Homeless guy who trespassed often.
court said it was okay as it was for necessity.
5th amendment is what?
They cannot take your private property without payment.
Right to destroy between being alive v dead
If you are alive you can destroy your property/have a provision.
If you are dead, usually they will not enforce a provision in a will directing that valuable property be destroyed.
Jane, a wealthy Michigan woman, wanted to be buried with her 10-carat, blue diamond ring. Could Jane’s heirs stop her from being buried with it?
Probably not, as it has been routinely allowed.
Personal property is okay, real estate is not okay
Real property v personal property
A tree growing. What about if cut?
Growing corn. What if when harvested?
Real property is on the land. Personal is not.
Real property as they are attached to land, once cut personal
Real when in land, once cut personal.