Quotes Flashcards
(42 cards)
In Republic : Someone who exercises love for the soul…
Plato
‘reveres and respects temperance and courage and magnanimity and wisdom’
‘‘The right kind of love is by nature the love of…
Plato
order and beauty and that has been moderated by philosophy, music and poetry’
Showing the danger of desire , Excessive indulgence can …
Plato
“drive one mad just as much as pain does”
Pausanias in Symposium talking of the difficulty finding the right partner in a homoerotic relationship
Plato
“there’s no telling how boys are going to turn out- whether their minds or their bodies will end up good or bad”
Artistophanes quotes on homosexuality in story of spheres combatting accusations of immorality against homosexuals.
Plato
“the best of their generation, both as boys and young men”
“they are naturally the bravest”
“it’s not out of shamelessness that they do this but because they are bold, brave and masculine”
Plato in Laws describing how the first homosexual relationships were unnatural…
Plato
“impelled by their slavery to pleasure
What does Diotima suggest in Symposium is superior about homosexual relationships..
Plato
homoerotic relationships produce ideas and virtue and that this bond is often stronger than the bond which leads to the production of children
Seneca in Letters on Morality talking of one immoral aspect of homosexuals…
Seneca
“Does it not seem to you to be living against nature, those who change their clothes for women’s?”
Seneca criticism regarding men who engage in passive sex with other men
Seneca
“although his sex ought to have rescued him from this abuse, will not even his age rescue him from it”
An inference we can make regarding Seneca’s views on homosexual relationships from Consolation to Helvia
Seneca
given Seneca’s statement that sex should only be indulged for the purposes of reproduction he wouldn’t have approved of male-male sex as it simply represented placing one’s desires over reason, something that was incompatible with a stoic way of life.
Loeb 31 Sappho’s vivid description of her sexual experiences with a female lover.
Sappho
“When I see you […] sweat pours over me and a tremor seizes me all over”
Loeb 24 provocatively describing her former lesbian relationships with other girls.
Sappho
“what we did when we were young, Many, beautiful things”
Sappho description of desire as a “…” conveying its power
Sappho
“bittersweet invincible creature”
Plato says how uncontrolled desire is ….
Plato
“compatible with violence and licentiousness”
Plato in Republic says how his state would control …
Plato
“our desires that distort our perception of good”
Seneca describes desire as a rushing stream and that if
“if reason succeeds, passions will not even begin”
Seneca describes lust in Phaedra as
“unholy passion for gain”
Seneca saw love as akin to
“friendship gone mad”
Seneca illustrates how destructive lust can be through which story
Saturn’s golden age being destroyed and all the world’s ills and suffering caused from that very lust in Phaedra
Seneca emphasis on reciprocity of emotions
“You must live for another, if you want to live for yourself”
Seneca anti pleasures and lust
“there is a dishonourable stain on those who throw themselves into gluttonous pleasures and lust”
Seneca Physical description of lust
“festering” like a wound
Seneca Romantic love has the effect of
“firing souls up into the desire for a beautiful object, not without the hope of mutual affection”
Seneca physical symptoms of desire
“the stings of lust which rips the soul apart”
