temporality Flashcards
(13 cards)
temporality on the speeches of pythagoras
the metaphor of water and time
the ages of a mans life condensed into the seasons of a year - growing from youth into maturity - verbs of motion - human life must also be linear if time is linear (think of the waves crashing into one another - sometimes the past present and future are in contact with one another but it is temporary) - sometimes is life linear?
ovid fails to escape the fate of this linearity in his movement to epic - but then the tristia follows and the epic is still distinctly him
elegiac self consciousness in ars am
Ars Am 1.3 - talks about the young man being good for love and for war and the old soldier being a disgrace and too old to be a lover
poetic temporality - foil to the heroides gendering of poetic time - the poet too is always waiting
aware of the expectation and how he subverts it
aging and amorous/elegiac pursuit in the amores 1
1.8 older man gives comfort to the jealous amatoria because the puella will eventually grow old and unattractive
elegy and reversal of time in the amores
am 2.1: describes how song can call back the horses of the suns chariot and make the moon stay longer etc
poetic temporality of elegy is simultaneously embodied and ruled by sensation but also nostalgic and looking back
heroic temporality in amores 2.1
characterises many of the epic characters he mentions in relation to the passage of time - the linear trajectories that drive epic, whose subjects are swift-footed achilles (velox cantatus achilles), long-wasted years of odysseus, they are all of no present use to a poetic-lover and thus he delays his ascension to epic once more
lucretius on time
time as a secondary quality of place - cannot think of time without motion or without change
in heroides - women are left behind in perpetual anticipation whilst the men are moving forward - cannot experience time because they are not in motion? (also relates to the elegiac lover)
water as the passage of time (Pythagoras in the met) -0water as in the sea as the gateway to epic in the tristia
hero in the heroides on time
man have things which they can do the pass the time - women in endless repetition- menstrual cycle etc - love provides motion to their sedentary experience of time
irony as love is what holds ovid in place and also is what condemns the heroines of the heroides to their ceaseless waiting
Alcyone’s generic misunderstanding
expresses desire to stay by Ceyx’s side and follow him on this journey - fundamentally misreading her own situation - they are an elegiac pairing not an epic one
Hind’s thoughts on intertext
intertext can work in multiple directions and on several axis’ - ovid engaging with the way rereading his own writing will be influenced by the new writing - most transparently with the tristia because he presents it as the poetic consequence of his previous writing, the foregone and inevitable conclusion?
temporal summary of tristia book 1
forward chronological motion from a narrative perspective
book 1 - final days in rome and voyage to tomis
but also in disarray - 2 and 1about his voyage, 3 about his last night in rome (but from a retrospective and nostalgic perspective - the poetic ego reminiscing from his voyage)
book 2 - defence of him self and his poetry
book 3 -0 life in tomis (primarily)
forced embodiment of time in the tristia
‘take the dress of THIS day’ - forced contemporanity
temporality in tristia 1.2
sequence of temporal indications: repetition of ‘iam’ and ‘nunc’ towards the end of the poem - he is most situated in a time when he is sending his writing to rome - which is ironically already in the past -> temporal fissures
temporality and the myth of phaethon in the met
phaethon story straddles two books - the continuous song is interrupted, even the episodes are not allowed to be complete/whole/continuous
cosmic reordering of book one is mirrored in the destruction in the second half of Phaethon story in book 2 -> global reordering
book 3 holds the destruction of a line in the theban narrative - but does not follow through to the end pf the line complete
