Exam 2 - Lecture 5 Flashcards
What is the lower error bar for upright, and what is the upper error bar for supine?
2.6ish -> 2.4ish, thats why positioning may OR may not be statistically significant for every patient.
what is higher, ERV or IRV?
IRV
What makes up vital capacity?
ERV, IRV, TV
What can basic spirometry not cover?
Anything that has RV as a component. So RV, FRC and TLC.
What is the indicator gas USUALLY for advanced spirometry? why?
Helium; cheap and inert and theres very low volumes of it in the atmosphere so makes it more accurate to measure.
Do not want to use a gas that is going to undergo any reactions in the lung or be exchanged.
How do they measure FRC?
With advanced spirometry, they compare starting concentration with end concentration.
No helium is lost, it’s just diluted out
What do you need to use advanced spirometry?
Helium (indicator gas), helium meter, source of oxygen, and CO2 absorbent.
What group did he talk about on the periodic table?
noble gases
Whats at the top of noble gases?
helium.
What other noble gases did he mention you can use as an indicator gas?
Neon, Argon (expensive and rare), Xenon, Radon
What did he say about radon gas?
It isnt reactive, but natural radon in the ground is very reactive. Radon gas is the second leading cause of Lung cancer behind smoking, and can be present in basements up north.
Emphysema leads to what issues with compliance?
Loss of elastic tissue, becomes much more compliant with low resistance.
Emphysema is more or less stretchy?>
He said LESS. It’s confusing, but i believe the lack of stretchiness is related to lack of recoil. it expands just fine, just doesnt recoil well and exhale air.
How much transpulmonary pressure do you need to expand with emphysema, starting at RV?
only 10 cmH2O to get to nearly 6L of vital capacity.
Restrictive lung diseases such as fibrosis have more or less compliance?
Less, harder to fill.
What gets “laid down” in the lungs with fibrosis?
Scar tissue
Fibrosis causes what shift on the chart, and what does that mean?
Right shift, more pressure is required and end up with less Vital capacity.
Starting at RV, how much pressure is needed to get to what total vital capacity with fibrosis?
35cmH2O is required to only get 3L of vital capacity.
What do normal lungs require for pressure and vital capacity starting at RV?
4.5L with a transpulmonary pressure of 30cmH2O
At the beginning of inspiration from RV, the PTP change between 0 and 8cmH2O alters the volume of the lung how?
Doesnt change much, but once it gets above 8, volume increases fast.
What would if we hypothetically put all saline into the lungs?
Way more compliant with nearly zero hysteresis.
If saline causes there to almost be no hysteresis, that tells us that something about air is affecting the
surface tension.
whats the air-water interface
Where air and a very thin layer of water meet eachother.
If we have a ton of surface tension, this makes it more or less difficult to get air into lungs?
Much more difficult.