Lecture 10/4 - Refelxes pt 2 Flashcards

Test 2

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What happens to our fetal nAch-R as we grow?

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They are swapped out for Adult nAch-R

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When there’s a problem with contracting skeletal muscle, what will our body do to fix that?

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Add more nAch-R

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Describe these areas in the post synpase:
Junctional area
Perijunctional area
Postjunctional area

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Junctional: Center, right under clefts

Perijunctional: on the side, side of clefts

Postjunctional: on the side of perijunctional

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Where should nAch-R be?

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NMJ - junctional area only.

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Where can fetal nAch-R appear in skeletal muscle?

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NMJ in the junction, perijunctional, and postjunctional areas

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What are ways to assess neuromusclar activity?

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TOF
Single Twitch
PTC (Post-tetanic count)
DBS (Double burst stimulation)

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What muscle does the ulnar nerve activate?

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Adductor Pollicis

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Define the Supramaximal Stimuli

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Voltage strong enough to fully recruit all motor neurons and fully activate the skeletal muscle cells

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What happens if you dont get a twitch at all?

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Not enough voltage or something wrong at the NMJ

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What is TOF?

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Train of Four

Repetitive stimulation at 2hz/2sec

Ex) 2 secs = 4 twitches
4 secs = 8 twicthes

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Define tetanic

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Contractions when stimulated at a high frequency repeatedly

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What is post-tetanic count?

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Number of contracts after tetanic contraction

Helps determine health of the synapse

Increases PTC = light block
Decreases PTC = deep block

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What is DBS?

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Double Burst Stimulation

2 short burst of 3 electrical stimuli at 50 Hz with brief pause in between

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What is the Hz with DBS?

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50 Hz

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What happens if you stimulate the ulnar nerve and get a really big contraction?

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Block is not deep enough

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What happens if stimulate the ulnar nerve and get no contraction?

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Deep block

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What happens while stimulating a nerve?

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Electrons depolarize the outside which changes the polarity of the outer cell…

This indirectly depolarizes the inside of the cell causing an AP and muscle contraction

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What fingers muscles are affected and what fingers move when the ulnar nerve is stimulated?

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Adductor Pollicis

Thumb twitches forward
Pinky twitches
one or both will happen

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What will happen if you are completely paralyed and the ulnar nerve is stimulated in TOF?

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Nothing - no twitches

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What are some alt sights for nerve stimulation if you cant use ulnar nerve?

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Ophthalmic branch of Facial Nerve (outer side of eye socket)
Peroneal nerve (butt)
Posterior tibial nerve (lower extremity)

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T/F: Depolarizing blocks have a short half life

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T

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Onset/Half life nondepolarizing block:

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Few minutes

lasts extremely long

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Onset/Half life depolarizing block:

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quick

short lasting

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In TOF responses: Which twitch is A? B?

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1st twitch = A
Last = B

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What is the TOF ratio?
B/A
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What does a higher TOF ratio mean?
drug is wearing off
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Which paralytic can you have a TOF ratio in?
Nondepolarizing Block
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T/F: In TOF, all 4 twitches will be the same height and highest as before you give the drug
T
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In TOF responses: which twitch is often the strongest?
1st A
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In TOF responses: what does the 4 twitches being different heights mean?
Incomplete block
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T/F: In TOF responses: The twitches all come back at the same rate as the drug wears off
F The twitches come back in different stages
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What is the TOF ratio in depolarizing block? Why?
1 All the twitch as the same size because this is a complete block
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Describe an Alpha-3 Beta-2 Receptor
nAch-R on motor nueron = autoreceptor 3 alpha subunits; 2 beta subunits
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What does the Alpha-3 Beta-2-R do?
When activated by Ach, Na+ and Ca++ flows in. This moves VP1 vesicles towards to to synapse and VP2 vesicles to the membrane for exocytosis
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What is Succs broken down by?
Plasma Cholinesterase
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Nondepolarizing blockers inhibit ________of the synapse
both sides
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Depolarizing blockers inhibits _________ of the synapse
more of the skeletal muscle side
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What are the L-type Ca++ channel's role in the motor neuron?
Supplement the P-Type **Faster than P-type**
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What type of drug can you give an alcoholic who has tremors?
CCB
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If you give an _______ dose of CCB you will not paralyze them
High
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What happens when you give Succs with fetal nAch-R present?
Prolonged depolarization in MULTIPLE areas Increased K leaving the cell. Vfib
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What are the nerves called that connect to the diaphragm?
Phrenic nerves
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Where do the phernic nerves originate and connect to the diaphragm?
C3, C4, C5
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Where does Adductor Pollicis inhibition start?
20 micrograms/kg
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Where does Adductor Pollicis have total inhibition?
40 micrograms/kg
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T/F: If there are 4 strong twitches in the adductor pollicis, pt can probably breath on their own.
T PROBABLY
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Where does Diaphragm inhibition start?
40 micrograms/kg
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Where does Diaphragm have total inhibition?
90 micrograms/kg
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In less important muscles: They are the ____ to be paralyzed and the _____ to recover.
1st Last
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In more important muscles: They are the _____ to be paralyzed and the ______ to recover.
Last 1st
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What type of neuromusclar blocker are you generally using TOF for?
Non depolarizing
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In TOF: What happens when the 4th twitch disappears?
75-80% of nAch-R blocked
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In TOF: What happens when the 3th twitch disappears?
85% of nAch-R blocked
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In TOF: What happens when the 2th twitch disappears?
85-90% nAch-R blocked
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In TOF: What happens when the All twitches disappears?
90-95% nAch-R blocked
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If the patient is coming out of a block and can lift their head, what can we assume?
All 4 twitches are present Maybe able to breathe on their own
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What are your stimulator settings (TOF Voltage)?
50-80 mA
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Define voltage
Force/push stimulator applies
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T/F: Your stimulator settings is equal to the supramaximal stimuli
T
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What additional aspect is needed to cause contractions with fetal nAch-R when using Succs?
Bad motor deficits
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Why does Succs cause an increase in IOP?
IOP = intraocular pressure Ocular muscle is controlled by mulitple motor neurons = multiple NMJ Ca++ coming in causes contractions which increases the pressure
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What can happen with increased IOP?
Blindness
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Describe GABA
inhibitory neurotransmitter in CNS increases Cl- conductance
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What happens if you suppress GABA?
uncontrolled activity of CNS ---> seizures
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Describe Gylcine
inhibitory neurotransmitter in CNS Similar to GABA **Very important in spinal cord**
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What are the 2 main neurotransmitters in the CNS/spinal cord?
GABA Glycine
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What neurotransmitters increase alertness and awareness?
Ach Histamine Glutamate NE
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What is the neurotransmitter in the PNS?
Ach
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Anticholinergics block ____ and cause _______
Ach Drowsiness
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What type of drug is Benadryl? What can a large dose do?
Central histamine and central anticholinergic Increase heart rate d/t mAch-R in the heart
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What happens if you inhibit Ach-ase?
Increase alertness/awareness
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What types of drugs can we give to reverse a paralytic without waking the patient up?
Drugs that inhibit Ach-ase that DO NOT cross the BBB **NOT -STIGMINES**
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What is the main neurotransmitter for pain?
Glutamate
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What does too much glutamate cause?
Brain cell death
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What drug Tx Parkinsons?
Dopamine
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What is dopamine?
Potent motor inhibitor
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What are 3 inhibitory neurotransmitters?
GABA, Dopamine, Glycine
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What were NE reuptake inhibitors used for?
Chronic pain
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What does severe acidosis do?
decrease CNS activity
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What does severe alkalosis do?
increase CNS activity
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How are Acid-Base imbalances related to Ca++?
Albumin is largely present in blood plasma & negatively charged -The less H+ ions = The more Ca++ the albumin will attract This means less free Ca++ in the blood stream = increased CNS activity (alkalosis) -The more H+ ion = less Ca++ the albumin will attract This means more free Ca++ in the blood = decreased CNS activity (acidosis)
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Hypoventilate =
increase H+
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Hyperventilate =
decrease H+