MSK Hx's Flashcards
What are the components of HPC for back pain?
- O’SOCRATES
- open q, site, onset, character, radiation, associated features, timing, exac/releiving factors & severity
- Associated symptoms
- Cord compression
- waterworks/bowel/weakness/strange sensations down legs/buttocks
- in men: difficulty gaining erections?
- inflammatory
- stiff back in the morning & if yes how long lasting?
- constitutional
- any sig weight loss over the past few months? Appetite? fever/ill? mood?
- ICE
- what do you think is wrong? whats your biggest concern?
- Cord compression
What conditions should be asked about specifically in back pain Hx for PMH and FH?
- PMH
- osteoporosis, arthritis, TB and previous cancer
- FH
- ankylosing spondylitis and osteoporosis
What are the red flag symptoms in back pain Hx?
- red flag symptoms = indicative of serious pathology
- TUNA FISH
- trauma, unexplained weight loss, neurologic symptoms, age >50, fever, IVDU, Steroid Use, History of cancer (prostate, renal, breast, lung)
- cord compression and cauda equina are medical emergencies that should be sought after in the Hx
- progressively worsening pain not relieved by rest
- age of onset under 20 or over 50 yrs
- urinary/foecal incontinence, leg weakness, saddle anaethesia
- hx of cancer; weight loss; fever
- sever trauma or minor trauma in presence of known osteoporosis
What are the yellow flag symptoms to watch for in back pain Hx?
- yellow-flag symptoms are prognostic of long term disability:
- negative attitude that their back pain is severely disabling
- belief that activity is harmful to recovery
- belief that passive treatment will be beneficial
- depression and social withdrawal
- financial difficulties
What are the DDx for back pain?
- mechanical lower back pain (inc lumbar spondylosis)
- prolapsed intervertebral disc
- malignancy
- cauda equina syndrome
- osteoprootic crush fracture
- seronagative spondyloarthropathy (HLA-B27-associated conditions)
- infection
- spinal canal stenosis
- non-spinal causes of back pain
What investigations should be done for back pain hx?
- Bedside
- back examination and lower limb neuro exam
- bloods
- bloods- FBC, LTS, U&Es, CRP and ESR
- Imaging
- If TB suspected: CXR and quantiferon-TB Gold (blood test to recognise TB)
- MRI (not needed if Hx suggests uncomp mech back pain)
- if cord compression or cauda equina suspected = Urgent MRI/CT scan
- If crush fracture suspected = x ray and subs DEXTA scan if a crush fracture is suspected
What is the management for back pain hx?
- Simple back pain inc prolapsed intervertebral disc
- advise to stay active and avoid prolonged bed rest
- physio regular analgesia and consider ST muscle relaxants
- serious pathology or red flag sx:
- cord compression = dexamethasone and urgent surgery; radiotherapy in malignancy
- cauda equina syndrome
- urgent surgery
- ankylosing spondylitis
- NSAIDs
- Osteoporosis
- bisphosphonates, vit D and calcium supplements
What are the S/Sx of mechanical lower-back pain in a back pain Hx?
- Usually is a localised pain that worsens with movement and changes in posture
- there maybe a hx of trauma/heavy lifting OR it could be spontaneous
- there will frequently be a Hx of previous similar episodes over a number of years
- no features of systemic illness nor neurological symptoms
What are the S/Sx of prolapsed intervertebral disc?
- Sudden, severe lower back pain often brought on by heavy lifting
- nerve-root involvement [most commonly sciatic nerve] classically causes a shooting pain down the leg that extends below the knee with paraesthesia in a dermatomal pattern
What are the S/Sx of a malignacy in a back pain hx?
- Unwell systemically e.g. weight loss and symptoms from primary malignancy
- usually of gradual onset with constant pain not relieved by rest
- PMHx of malignancy with tendency to metastatise to bone e.g. multiple myeloma, prostatic or breast carcinoma
What is are symptoms of cauda equina syndrome in a back pain Hx?
- Urinary and faecal incontinence
- sensory numbness of buttocks and backs of thighs & weakness of the legs [saddle anaesthesia]
- the most common causes of cauda equina (things putting pressure on the spinal cord) are malignancy and infection
What are the S/Sx of osteoporotic crush fracture in a back pain Hx?
- Risk factors for osteoporosis
- increasing age
- female sex
- corticosteroid therapy
- premature menopause (<40 years), smoking and malabsorption
- sudden localised back pain afer minimal trauma (even a sneeze)[e.g. ask what was happening immediately before the incident/pain]
What are the S/Sx of seronegative spondyloarthropathy (HLA-B27-associated conditions)? [in joint pain and back pain hx]
- ankylosing spondylitis
- psoratic arthritis
- enteropathic arthritis (from IBD)
- reactive arthritis (infection in GU/GI tract)
typically a young male of caucasian origin,
typically asymmetrical oligoarthritis affecting large joints, the spine is frequently involved with sacroiliitis most commonly and enthesitis
- Ank spond: 20-40y/o male, blurring of sacroiliac joints, pain, forward bend stiffness, progressive, electric type sciatic pain
morning back stiffness lasting > 1 hour which improves & the pain also with exercise
reduced range of movement of spine with characteristic question mark posture in the late stages
So particularly consider in a Hx of psoriasis/bowel disorders/recent infection
what are the S/Sx of infection in a back pain Hx?
- severe back pain in a systemically unwell patient with fever and night sweats
- past history of TB may suggest Potts disease
What are the S/Sx of spinal canal stenosis?
- associated with degenerative changes, so more common in an elderly population
- pain brought on by exercise and relieved by rest
- patient usually feels more comfortable in a slightly stooped forward position
what are the non spinal causes of back pain and their S/Sx?
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Dissecting aortic aneurysm
- suddent-onset severe ‘tearing’ back pain typically felt between the shoulder blades
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Fibromyalgia
- more generalised aches and pains including arthralgia and myalgia
- pancreatitis, endometriosis and renal calculi are also rare causes of back pain
What should be asked in HPC of joint pain?
- O’SOCRATES
- Open q, site, onset, character, radiation, associated features, timing, exac/relieving factors, severity
- Associated features = stiffness
- have you noticed any stiffness in your joings when you wake up in the morning? how long does that last for?
- Swelling
- swelling/redness/heat in your joints?
- extra articular features
- infections,
- rashes,
- enteropathy (diarrhoea),
- uveitis/iritis (peinful or red eyes),
- spondyloarthropathy (back pain/morning back stiffness),
- CTD (mouth ulcers/dry eyes or mouth/painfully cold hands that change colour)
What should specifically be asked about in PMH, DH and FH of joint pain?
- PMH
- psoriasis, IBD, STIs, conjunctivitis and uveitis
- DH
- specifically thiazides can precipitate gout
- FH
- arthritis and clarify what type
What are the DDx for joint pain?
- inflammatory [ind by exercise, swelling and heat improving stiffness]
- rheumatoid arthritis
- seronegative spondyloarthropathy (HLA-B27-associated conditions)
- SLE
- NB: many arthritides are associated with systemic symptoms - extra articular features may provide useful clues as to the underlying pathology
- also chronic or not e.g. >6w ~RA etc but acute swollen ~different DDx
- Non inflammatory
- osteoarthritis
- gout
- fibromyalgia
- spetic arthritis
- (beware of the acutely hot, swollen joint for ?Sep arth)
What are the investigations for joint pain hx?
- Bedside
- examine joints in question and screen other joints; look for evidence of extra articular features e.g. rash, nail changes, gouty tophi, lung fibrosis
- Bloods
- FBC, U&Es, LFTs, CRP and ESR
- Autoimmune screen if suspecting RA or connective tissue disorder
- blood cultures if suspecting septic arthritis
- if gout suspected –> serum urate
- Acute setting: joint aspiration and synovial fluid analysis for septic arthritis and gout
- Investigations
- CXR if possibility of interstitial lung disease
What is the management of joint pain?
- physio –> in chronic condition
- osteoarthritis = exercise, weight loss, regular analgesia and monitoring
- RA - early DMARDS e.g. methotrexate; anti-TNF therapy if conventional DMARDs fail
- Gout - treat acute attack with NSAIDs, after acute episode resolution, review precipitating factors and consider allopurinol for long-term prevention
- Seronegative spondyloarthropathy
- nsaids, dmards in peripheral arthritis and anti TNF therapy
- Lupus
- hydroxychloroquine for mild symptomsl steroids and DMARDs for joint disease; high dose steroids and potent immunosuppressants for end organ disease
- Fibromyalgia
- patient education; amitryptyline currently first line medication
- septic arthritis
- broad spectrum IV antibiotics
What are the S/Sx of rheumatoid arthritis?
- symmetrical polyarthritis that typically causes synovitis in small joints-
- particularly hands and feet although large joints can also be affectee
- morning stiffness lasting >1hr
- along with pain that improves with exercise
What are the S/Sx of systemic lupus erythematosus?
- Arthrialgia and/or symmetrical small-joint polyarthritis (non-erosive)
- typical pt pic: non-caucatian females w/age of early adulthood (20s)
- common features include oral ulcers, Raynauds phenomenon, dry eyes and/or mouth, photosensitivity, malar rash, discoid rash, fever and general malaise
What are the S/Sx of osteoarthritis in joint pain Hx?
- pain in older patients
- that is worse with exercise and
- at least partially relieved by rest
- symmetrical oligo- or polyarthritis
- that most frequently affects hips, knees and hands
- Hx of previous injury to the joint and/or obesity (especially for knee OA)
