Nature or Attributes of God Flashcards

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eternal timeless

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God is eternal since he is outside of space and time. God has always existed and always will since time separates him
(Boethius, Aquinas)

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eternal everlasting

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god is eternal but also in time but at all points in time (Swinburne)

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Who is lady philosophy

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Boethius’ mouthpiece for his own ideas - a personification of wisdom while he is in prison and sentenced to death

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What 4 negatives does Boethius point out about the incompatibility of foreknowledge and free will

when talking to lady philosophy

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  1. if no human acts are free then rewards and punishments are useless and lose their basis
  2. ideas of virtue and vice called into question if praise nor blame deserved
  3. God must be the author of all the evil we do if the order of our events depends on him
  4. if there is a fixed future then there is no use of hope and prayer (undermines key uniting bond between god and man)
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How does Lady philosophy respond to Boethius’ criticisms

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  • God is timeless so it is not his future - sees it all at once
  • God is other to humans - cant contain him within human logic
  • solves issue of free will because he doesn’t predict the future since for him there is no future it is all the ‘eternal present’
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Issues with an eternal timeless god (4)

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  • contradicts scripture which presents god as personal and involved - would have to be in time to perform miracles
  • Swinburne: doesn’t make sense for all events to be simultaneously presented to God
  • can a timeless god be loving?
  • prayer is pointless
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3 positives about an eternal timeless god

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time would limit a god so has to be outside of it
emphasises how ‘other’ god is to humans
good way to explain why incarnation had to happen

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Wolterstorff on a timeless god

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what makes a god worthy of worship is that he is personal - people can experience him through miracles and prayer.

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Swinburnes issue with a timeless God

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not logical for a god to experience all events at the same time
- if god knows specifically about 1995, then he must have existed in 1995 to have concept of time

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How does Swinburnes everlasting God solve issue of free will

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gods omniscience doesn’t include events in the future because they don’t exist yet
increases as time goes on but can make predictions because he has perfect knowledge of everyone

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Kenny and Nero fiddling

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If god is a timeless God then he would see everything at the same time so would see Kenny writing at the same time as Nero fiddling and Rome burning

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John Locke on freedom and how it links to Gods foreknowledge

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even if we have choices, if God can see the future and has predetermined it, we have no free will since we cannot change the future

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Schleiermacher on free will and evaluation

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doesn’t know the future but sees us as a close friend

eval: not a fair comparison because god has perfect knowledge so will perfectly predict the future - therefore future is still fixed

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Criticisms of everlasting god

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  • limited by time
  • if he does not know the future he is not omniscient and not limited
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Who might say God could make 3 X 3 = 11?

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Logically impossible. Descartes.

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an example of a paradox of an omnipotent god

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can god sin
can god make a rock so heavy he cant lift
a square triangle

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the example of a squared circle

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Descartes - god created laws of mathematics so can make on and change the laws

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all perfections

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Descartes describes god as being of all perfections so cannot be limited by laws of logic

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limited human conception

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descartes - humans fault that our knowledge is limited

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mackie - ‘a mere form of words’

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criticises Descartes saying god can defy all logic is just refusing to argue
avoiding the problem

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Descartes on omnipotence

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omnipotence concerns gods ability to do anything, including the logically impossible
- truly omnipotent god could change laws of nature to make it possible
- answer to paradoxes will always be yes

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Swinburne’s solution to omnipotence

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omnipotence concerns gods ability to do what is logically possible for a perfect god to do
ie. cannot sin

not if the predicate is altogether incompatible with the subject - sentence doesnt make sense

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logically possible vs practically possible

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logically - something we can think of (climbing mount everest)
practical - something we can do (could not acc climb it)

God can do both

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Vardy on omnipotence

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god purposely limited power when creating universe to allow for perfect rational human beings
- only thing to limit his power is himself
- had to do this for universe to work

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Macquarrie on omnipotence

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out of love for humanity he limited himself
jesus - self emptying himself of divine attributes

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kenosis

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jesus self emptying himself of divine attributes

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is descartes understanding of god acc able to break laws of nature

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descartes actually describes god changing not breaking laws
- cannot break laws of logic because he is creating new laws to follow so can only follow ones he’s made - not break them

so can god break laws of logic ? would have to say no

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problems of Aquinas’ timeless god gaining knowledge

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1) god is out of time and space altogether nut humans gain knowledge from space and time
2) if god is simple how can god go through change and acquire knowledge

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Aquinas addressing problems of his timeless God with knowledge

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knowledge is not physical so even if we gain it from the physical world (3 has always been square root of nine etc)

‘self-knowledge’ - what god knows
God is creator so what he knows about himself is self knowledge. a creator knows about their own creation so god has perfect knowledge of himself and his creation.

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Peter Geach and his analogy for free will and john lockes opinion

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analogy of chess grandmaster kasparov - free to make any move but will always end in him winning

locke: if god knows the future we are free to make choices but do not have proper freedom because they aren’t proper choices

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if boethius and aquinas believe god has knowledge of all in a single glance, why is this problematic

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they would see the future so still an issue of free will

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What are the two sides of the Euthyphro dilemma?

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Ancient philosophical conundrum
Either God defines goodness, and so it becomes ARBITRARY . Random.
Or God is subject to an independent standard of goodness -so isn’t the highest being. IMPOTENT
Either way NOT WORTHY OF WORSHIP.

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what are the two key words that are the two sides of the euthyphro dilemma

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Impotence and arbitrary

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How does Aquinas respond to the euthyphro dilemma that suggests god is not worthy of worship?

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God can only command out of his goodness, he is able to do all logically possible but will only behave perfectly, so will not sin, so therefore not random, but perfect.

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Humes 3 criticisms of an omnibenevolent God and eternal afterlife

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1) eternal punishment doesnt seem to have a purpose - normally punishment is to protect society or to reform. suggests it is pure retribution which is incompatible with loving god

2) on what basis does god determine the extent of our merit - would give god human qualities and passions

3) doctrine of eternal damnation involves excessive punishment and most dont fit heaven or hell
‘greatest part of mankind floats between vice and virtue’
finite crime- infinite punishment

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problem of evil and an omnibeneveloent god

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mackies inonsistent triad (logical problem)

Mill’s evidential problem of evil - suffering suggests that it is unlikely a god exists

Dostoyevesky’s existential problem - even if god exists he is unworthy of worship (return the ticket)

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Swinburnes response to the euthyphro dilemma

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  • no problem with morality being above god because other things are such as laws of logic
  • doesnt limit omnipotence because isn’t in nature for a loving god to kill innocents (but actually- floods, plagues)
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Vardy responding to the euthyphro dilemma

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self-limited god does not need to be completely supreme

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Swinburne/vardys response to humes ‘unfair god’

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  • would not disagree with a god who has human traits because it fits with their view of a non omni max god
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a criticism on humes 2/3 argument being useless

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  • focuses on judgement not nature - a lot of christians believe in universal salvation
  • goal of eternal punishment could be to inspire humanity beforehand
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evaluation for prob of evil

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  • iraneous
  • hick
  • aquinas
  • augustine