Pulmonary and CP Flashcards
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approach to pt with mild to moderate Asthma attack
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Hand held nebulizer – asap Albuterol, Atrovent
Oral Prednisone (60mg) PO (as good as IV initially)
Peak flow (PEFR) after each neb tx, repeat VS, reassess
Usually no need for labs, CXR, EKG, ABG, etc
Discharge
Walk ‘em, assure f/u, return precautions
–> have them speaking mary had a little lamb her fleece was white as snow
Oral steroid burst (60mg x5d or tapered dose Rx), inhaled steroid Rx
asthma pt can’t go home if
Not responding to treatment, worsening
Hypoxic - ambulatory pulse ox <95%
PEFR not improved to 65- 70% predicted
ED visit in past 3 days for same
Exacerbation during steroid burst
hallmark of asthma attack
bilateral!
if not–> another dz process
Other than wheezing what would we likely see in a pt with an asthma attack
Dyspnea, cough, chest “tightness”
Pronged expiratory phase, I:E ratio 1:3 or 4
Tachypnea, tachycardia, HYPOxia, HYPERcarbia
Poor peak expiratory flow measurements (PEFR)
how do you elicit a prolonged expiratory phase
blow out the cake with 100 candles
will hear prolonged exasperation
what is a nl peak flow
Poor peak expiratory flow measurements (PEFR)
650 or 700 is normal
why do we see asthma exacerbations most commonly in the ED
Med non-compliance, viral illness most common reasons
what other pts wheeze
CHF
PE
COPD
is the person is over 40 and does not have a dx of asthma WATCH OUT
essential questions for pts with asthma
have you had a fever?
have you had any trauma?
have you been sick?
have you had this before?
what is the neb treatment for asthma
albuterol neb 2.5 mg
once, 3x q20min or 10ml/1hr
COPD exacerbation will look like (VS)
BP 170/95,
P 120,
RR 32/min, (not good!)
T 97
pulse ox 93% on 4L nasal canula. 3-4 word sentences, sweating, insists on sitting upright, leaning forward.
treatment goals for COPD
reverse hypoxia, reverse hypercarbia, restore effective ventilation
The retention of CO2 is what brings these people down
pump has to work
alveoli have to work
need to get it out
reasons for COPD exacerbations
- Disease progression
- Med non-compliance, out of home O2
- Infection - viral, bronchitis, pneumonia
- Cardiac - pump
failure/impairment, arrhythmia - Metabolic acidosis, other illness on top
- Exposure/environment
- Sedation, drugs
what do we see on a COPD CXR
Hyperexpanded lung fields, narrow cardiac silhouette, flat diaphragms, blunted costophrenic angles
what labs would you want in a COPD exacerbation pt
CXR, lung/cardiac US, EKG, monitor, labs
TX COPD
Continuous nebulizer treatments Beta 2 agonists (10mg over 1h) Inhaled anticholinergics Oral steroids, IV if admit Antibiotics if appropriate Assisted ventilation - NIPPV
antibiotic commonly used in COPD pts
doxy
they get the weird bugs
when can you NOT send a COPD pt home
Not responding, worsening symptoms/signs Mental status changes If they require a bipap Hx recent severe exacerbations/intubation Older, co-morbidities New arrhythmia Uncertain of diagnosis Poor ambulatory pulse ox Poor home support
presentation of pneumothorax
elevated RR
elevated pulse
94% Room air
sudden
focused Hx for pneumothorax
have you had this before?
cardiac and pulm ROS
PMH
trauma? syncope?
Pulmonary ROS
Cough? Sputum? Hemoptysis?
o Coughing up blood?
• Shortness of breath (SOB = dyspnea)? • Wheezing?
• Pleurisy?
Cardiac ROS
Chest pain? • Palpitations? • Dyspnea on exertion DOE? o SOB on exertion? • Orthopnea? o SOB when lying down? • Paroxysmal nocturnal dyspnea PND? o Do you awake in the middle of the night and feel like you have to run to the window to get air? • Leg edema? o Swelling in legs? • Hx of cardiac problems? (HTN, MI, CHF, rheumatic fever, heart murmur)? o **Move to PMH if positive • Ever had/last EKG? o **Move to HM: Screening • Ever had/last heart tests (echo, stress tests)? o **Move to HM: Screening • Cardiac procedures (cath, stent) o **Move to PMH: Surgeries if yes
What do you do for suspected pneumothorax
i. IV, O2, monitor; EKG, tx pain
ii. CXR – search edges
1. +/-Expir film, lateral decub; deep sulcus sign if in bed
iii. Bedside ultrasound
looking for absence of “comet tailing”; the friction of pleural sliding
Shock? Or stable now?
- Can deteriorate quickly
- Could be obstructive shock
v. Primary or Secondary? - Primary pneumo –> spontaneous
- Secondary pneumo —>a result of something
chest CT
surgery consult