Religious Experience A02 Flashcards

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corporate experiences are more valid

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  • greater evidential force
  • in science the more times an experiment can be shown to prove something the more weight is added
  • greater the principle of testimony as the testimony is shared by many
  • more credible
  • Medjugorje - their descriptions of Mary were the same
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corporate experiences are not more valid

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  • Medjugorje - all describe Mary the same as all brought up with the same image of Mary - knew the expectation - always depicted wearing blue e.g.
  • element of peer group pressure
  • someone might say they hear something and others agree to feel included to the point they convince themselves its true
  • Toronto Blessing may have been caused by whipped up hysteria rather than the Holy Spirit
  • same could be said of Pentecost - Jesus had just died - they were alone and frightened
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religious experience provides proof of God’s existence

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  • many other been influenced by someone’s RE - Lourdes is now a major site of pilgrimage which some miracle approved by the Church and it led to the doctrine of the immaculate conception
  • of course different religious believers see visions in keeping with their faith - if G wants to reveal himself he will do so in a form recognisable to the person- of course Mary is always in blue - if she turned up in jeans we wouldn’t recognise her
  • no reason why God can’t appear to people when they’re on drugs/unwell/grieving - its at these times when we need God the most
  • even with naturalistic explanations for some experiences or scientists being able to artificially create RE does not prove no RE can come from God
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religious experiences provide no proof of God’s existence

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  • only has evidential force for the person having it - you might change your behaviour but this is only relevant for you
  • your RE can never be conclusive for others
  • can’t be tested by others
  • can interpret RE in different ways even if emotions or visions the same - affected by culture e.g.
  • another person may interpret the RE as hallucination or give it a naturalistic explanation
  • can’t prove which is correct
  • different religions encounter God in ways that match their beliefs
  • undermines evidential force
  • wish fulfilment - real Mary would not have worn blue so not really Mary
  • Union with G is only explanation and not most plausible
  • psycho explanations make more sense
  • Francis of Assisi had been fasting - hallucinations
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personal testimony is enough

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  • someone’s belief that they have seen God may be v strong - provides some evidence esp if it has a significant effect on person like conversion
  • they speak convincingly of what they saw and these accounts are persuasive
  • Swinburne’s principle of testimony
  • we should be prepared to believe someone’s report of private RE in the same way as if they told us about an everyday experience
  • James - validity = effects
  • supported by Bible which warns us to beware false prophets and St Paul wrote of ‘fruits of spirit’
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personal testimony is not enough

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  • sincerity with which someone speaks does not necessarily make it true
  • may be mistaken
  • Davies disagrees - we should only take someone’s word at face value if that matter is trivial not of ultimate importance like God - need more than word
  • Russel - the fact a belief has good moral effect is no evidence, may still have natural explanation
  • experiences can’t be tested by others - not possible to do a scientific study of these experiences and so they can’t be used as evidence
  • only have person’s individual account of what happened and we can’t recreate the experience even if we copy the circumstances by fasting e.g.
  • we can’t make the same experience happen for ourselves - problem of other minds
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ideas of William James are helpful in understanding RE

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  • large sample size - his investigation is broad and wide ranging allowing him to identify four characteristics shared by all RE
  • persuasive that there is some common thread within these experiences
  • greater evidence this is union with God rather than natural explanations
  • situations of people having RE is v different yet common themes suggest common source
  • argues you can test the validity in terms of LT effects
  • sees RE as source of religious institutions
  • foundation of the church was 2 RE - Pentecost and St Paul on Road to Damascus
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ideas of William James are not helpful in understanding RE

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  • 4 characteristics are broad and useless
  • of course RE is ineffable and will be passive if you’re on drugs etc…
  • far more differences between RE - visions of different people, voices, bright lights
  • Russell would critique the idea that effects is evidence
  • experience can still have a naturalist explanation
  • James believed institutions are 2nd to RE but most people belong to a faith from birth and religion is tied up with cultural and identity
  • most people never have an ineffable mystical religious experience
  • categories are helpful but he doesn’t tell us where RE comes from
  • describes RE doesn’t explain them
  • didn’t even believe it offers conclusive proof of G
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