Envy Flashcards

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What to tell DC if he checks out / gawks at another girl in front of me

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If your boyfriend is more like the former, I think you should say, “Hey, it really hurts my feelings when you stare at girls. Can you please be discrete or not do it front of me?”

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New thought when Devon glances at another girl

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If you can’t stand even a little look, then it sounds like it’s more about you than your boyfriend.

If your partner didn’t find you attractive, he wouldn’t be with you. Just because someone else is attractive, that doesn’t make you less pretty.

A relationship is so much more than physical attraction. It might be what initial sparked interest (Devon said it did) but it becomes much more than appearance.

JUST BECOMES HE LOOKS AT THEM DOESN’T MEAN HE WANTS TO SLEEP WITH THEM. HE’S HAPPY WOTH YOU.

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Guys perspectives

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It wasn’t that crazy really, just didn’t make me feel trusted or loved. By ‘really angry’ I mean she’d give me the silent treatment or be obviously upset for a while, not scream and throw things. But for her, me looking at another girl seemed to be a kind of mental infidelity, whereas for me it barely ever entered conscious thought.

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A guys perspective

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My ex girlfriend used to get really angry at me when she caught me looking at another girl, even if it was just an actress or someone on tv. It used to really upset me, and it still does thinking about it.

A relationship with someone is so much more than physical attraction. It might be what initially sparked your interest in each other, but it becomes much more than appearance.

It was insulting to be told that me looking at other women threatened our relationship, because I think it’s ludicrous to expect that, even in the healthiest relationship, you won’t only notice each other. That view also reduces a relationship to the basest physical interaction.

I’m not suggesting the other extreme - openly gawking, or obviously checking out a girl when you’re with your partner - and I would always, always try and be respectful. But it got to the stage where I would catch her looking at me if an attractive girl walked past, waiting for me to look so she could ‘catch’ me.

I honestly didn’t care if I noticed her looking at a well dressed guy or a shirtless movie star, because I didn’t reasonably expect that she’d abandon me to run off with them, just as I’m not about to break up with a girl I’m with if I see a good looking one walking down the street (THIS).

Again, I think respect is important, but to me it’s just unrealistic to expect men or women to walk around with blinders on, and I think policing each other’s gaze is juvenile.

Some of the healthiest relationships I’ve seen have been open with each other about who they find attractive, in a way that doesn’t compromise their bond with each other or suggest the possibility of infedelity.

I hope this makes sense - I guess my advice would be just be careful with how you address it with guys, because from my perspective it made me feel like an unfeeling animal

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Reminder
Looking at another girl does NOT mean he wants to be with them. As one guy said “for me, looking at another girl barely ever entered conscious thought.”

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You made a very wise statement–“I didn’t reasonably expect that she’d abandon me to run off with them”. I get a little jealous at times I shouldn’t, and this is something I try to remind myself of. Just because my boyfriend thinks a celebrity is attractive or likes a girl’s Facebook picture does not mean he wants to date them. As other commenters have pointed out, a relationship is so much more than a passing attraction. It’s about sharing and committing to a person you adore, inside and out. Attraction is just one aspect. THIS - Him looking does not mean he wants to act on it. He loves me!

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Guy’s perspective

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Honestly, guys are hard wired to look, but as others have stated, with honest men this looking is harmless. They are not comparing other women to you, rather it is more like looking at fine art. Its nice to look at, but it really doesn’t mean anything a few minutes later. He had chosen you, and he is happy and satisfied. If anything, you can take some assurance that he has looked at many other women, and not once has he saw something he wanted to take your place. His love for you overcomes any lust he may momentarily feel for some piece of mindless eye candy. He realizes that the greenest grass is with you, because you look the best in his eyes.

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Perspective

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There is a difference between him looking and him verbally pointing out women.

I absolutely detest when women watch tv and say things like “Oh my gosh that actor! His body! I’d let him do things to me!” when I’m dating them. It makes me feel like I’m being compared. However, this is a verbal thing and I can easily talk to them about not saying stuff like that around me.

You, on the other hand, are feeling self-conscious because you believe that he is comparing them to you when he is looking. This is your problem, and something that you need to work on. Not him. I know you know that, but admitting fault is a big step.

Next, you need to be honest with him and tell him how that makes you feel. Let him voice his opinion and how he feels. And then you need to trust him.

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Reminder

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He is your boyfriend. He chose you over everybody else! :D

If he wanted someone else he wouldn’t have chosen you for 9 years and proposed to you!

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Ooh good question

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I’m sure you notice other guys. how much do you wanna be with them over your boyfriend?

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It is absentminded

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It’s absent minded. I’ll be out with my girl and look at other attractive girls and not even mean too. I catch myself doing it and I know I looked because I saw something attractive, but I have no emotion towards them.

I love my girlfriend, she is the most beautiful and sexy creature that has ever graced the planet. That’s why I’m with her and not some peacocking bitch.

If a dude spends five years looking for Miss Right and chooses you, you’re fine.

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Perspective

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All men look at the passing female scenery. ALL of us. Always. My 86 y.o. dad looks.

You will never get him or any other guy to stop, so decide right now if it’s worth being single the rest of your life over.

I promise you it does not mean anything like we are comparing them to you and thinking of leaving. It’s just appreciating beauty.

It is rude as hell to do it so that our women notice, I grant you that.

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Confidence

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In fact, worrying that your boy is going to lose interest in you could, paradoxically, nudge him towards losing interest, because confidence is very sexy. People want to be liked by someone who they admire. That requires the other person to love themselves… if you think you are unworthy, you seem needy and desperate, not like someone whose respect should be earned. You also send subtle signals that you really aren’t worthy of admiration, and that can make your boyfriend feel like he’s not very worthy because he doesn’t have the love and respect of someone he admires. This is not a good cycle. Would you find your boyfriend attractive if he constantly acted like he was sure he wasn’t hot enough, cool enough, or tall enough for you?

All of this is a long way of saying: you’ve got learn to love yourself, baby. That old cliche about how you have to love yourself before anyone else can really love you is just true, true, true. Take your nice new boyfriend to yoga, get all hot and sweaty, ogle the hot instructor, and then take your boy home and let your imaginations run wild together.

(And if you really can’t get over your insecurities, get a therapist to help you.)

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Charm

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Own yourself. See the positive in yourself. You have to in order for others to see it. Think of sales. The best sales pitch is product knowledge and putting a positive spin on it. No negative is 100% negative. Yeah, you’re quiet. You don’t say useless shit. Or you’re not quick with snappy comebacks and witty one liners. That means you’re deliberate and thoughtful. This is the key to confidence and charisma. It’ll give you the courage to say what’s on your mind and do what needs to be done.

Lastly, charm. Charm is something you turn on and off. It’s not a personality, it’s an action, like walking or smiling. It’s a combination of seeing the best in others and helping them see that (genuine compliments work great here, but so does asking personal questions and laughing at their jokes). In other words, you’re not playing an entertainer. But to get there, you have to learn to talk about yourself in ways that get people to open up. Forget open ended questions. Focus on open ended statements. Also, get comfortable with silence. People who talk all the time are annoying for a reason. They never shut up. No one is 100% extrovert or introvert or quiet or talkative. Reality is that people are unique mixes of the two. And the key ingredient in charm is yourself. This is what makes you memorable and separates you from the crowd. Add your personality to what you say or do.

It’ll take trial and error, but enjoy the journey.

This is purposely non specific because it requires you find your own way. I could tell you what words to say in certain situations, but that would be telling you to be me. You need to be you. It’s the only way to form relationships that last.

Edit: At the start of a relationship and even in later stages but especially at the start, always keep the ball in your court. Don’t tell people to call you. You will call them. You initiate. Rather than thinking of it as confidence and personally, think of it more as proactive vs reactive. Be proactive.

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“Just because you don’t look like somebody you think is attractive, doesn’t mean you aren’t attractive. Flowers are pretty but so are Christmas lights and they look nothing alike”

I know it’s just one of these cheesy tumblr quotes from years ago but I still keep it in my notes. I do compare myself to others and sometimes it makes me so jealous and sad. But I also try to focus on myself and my own kind of beauty. I can’t swap bodies with another human so I have to make the best version of myself.

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Your unique beauty

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Believe in your own unique beauty. Furthermore develop a beautiful personality for this goes much further than skin deep beauty

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They are not taking away from your own beauty

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This was pretty relatable for me until the past 2 years.

It’s a very unhealthy attitude and good for no one. I use to be jealous until I started to admire it and follow suit. If someone is good, whether that be in looks, life, or intelligence you should be happy for them and see what you could learn from them because it never hurts you to see someone doing well.

At the end of the day everyone has certain good features and your style changes with the years. Just let ppl be, connect with them, and work on yourself. It’s a mindset change and its only triggered with experience. May take you a while to see things this way but when you do you will feel a hell of a lot better. I accept people are beautiful but that doesnt take away from my own beauty and it is the same for you!

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I forgive Devon for checking Kelly out in Munich for the sake of our relationship. It was disrespectful and I’ve made that incredibly clear.

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Just because you don’t look like someone attractive doesn’t mean you aren’t. Flowers are pretty but they look nothing alike. Focus on your beauty.

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Would you find your boyfriend attractive if he constantly acted like he was sure he wasn’t hot enough, cool enough, or tall enough for you? And constantly accuses you of comparing him / wanting to be with someone else?

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I accept people are beautiful but that doesnt take away from my own beauty and it is the same for you!

We can both be beautiful !

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Sales 101 - you need to see your positives for others to

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Own yourself. See the positive in yourself. You have to in order for others to see it. Think of sales. The best sales pitch is product knowledge and putting a positive spin on it. No negative is 100% negative. Yeah, you’re quiet. You don’t say useless shit. Or you’re not quick with snappy comebacks and witty one liners. That means you’re deliberate and thoughtful. This is the key to confidence and charisma. It’ll give you the courage to say what’s on your mind and do what needs to be done.

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“A flower does not think of comparing with the flowers next to it. It just blooms”

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Envious of another girl? Practice XX and xxx.

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Compassion.
1. All beings suffer
I’m glad you can see that this is an issue and it’s hurting you. That’s a good first step. You also have a very logical grasp on your illogical thinking.

Maybe it’ll help if I then begin with this - you’re normal. Not only are you normal, but I’m pretty sure every single human on the planet can identify with how you feel, except perhaps the true narcissists. You wouldn’t want that personality disorder anyway. I would estimate even the Beyoncé’s of the world have felt what you feel. As you said, there’s always somebody prettier/smarter/funnier/kinder/harder working/better in some way.

It isn’t so much that you need to see your own worth here as much as you could benefit from remembering that we all belong to each other. All of these insecurities and worries and jealousies you feel? You share them with the people you’re thinking about when they occur. Those people are also scrolling Instagram or reading the paper or hanging out with some friend or family member who makes them feel “less than.” We’re all just human. If you’re only seeing these other women as something better than you, you’ve stopped seeing them as complex and human.

They need your compassion. Just like you, they hurt and suffer. Just like you, they feel less than someone else.

If you work to find the sameness with these people who make you feel threatened, it’ll be easier to view them with empathy and realism. You’ll see them again as complex and troubled and as human as yourself.

  1. I would only add - speak well of other people.. not just to yourself, but to others. It may sound like your trying to convince yourself for a while. But mean it. Compliment and say nice things about people. You’ll be surprised how well received it can be. And that love will come back toward you. Soon you’ll be friends with the most beautiful, real humans.

We all belong to each other. Comparison is the thief of Joy. Upvote for Compassion!

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Another strategy is to remove self judgement!

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I love this reply. I just want to add, that sometimes the best place to start with difficult emotions, is to remove the top layer of judgement.

What I mean is, when you notice yourself judging other women, you then begin to judge yourself, which does not help you judge others less. What if you noticed the judgement of others without adding judgement of yourself to it?

The idea is, that instead of spiraling into self-loathing thoughts, you just notice the thought you were having. You can label it, “I’m feeling envy” or “I’m having a judgement” and remember that it is normal to have emotions and to fee judgement, and that it doesn’t make you bad person. We cannot always control our thoughts and emotions — at least not the automatic ones.

We CAN control our actions and the thoughts that come after our automatic thoughts. You do not have to “love” every part of your body— it may be helpful to learn to accept it, but generally, we cannot force ourselves to like or dislike something.

Finally, I would recommend looking into mindfulness skills and radical acceptance— there are some great Youtube videos from DBT clinicians out there that explain the concepts really well.

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Radical acceptance

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I notice after yoga or swimming, that I distance myself more away from “how I looks” to being impressed with what my body is capable of. Coming from a non religious/recovery background, I’ve been told to pray for them.

Like “I hope they feel loved and honored” and it feels uncomfortable but I magically helps!

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I don’t know exactly how helpful this is but I kinda got over this by just forcing myself into the mentality of “another woman’s gain is not my loss” I would say it over and over again until it had less of a hold of me, instead of noticing a girl who had something I admired and being envious, I made a forward effort to compliment that thing, even if it was just in my head

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Stop using your eyeballs to rate someone’s worth, and start using your heart. Stop comparing lives, spend some time sondering, and remember that the most beautiful things in this universe don’t stop to compare themselves to other things, they simply do what they are compelled and meant to do.

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Think of mom!! So happy and full of joy - looks don’t matter. We love her regardless for her spirit and warmth

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Compassion for ppl I do not like or am envious of

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Finding sameness, instead of what makes us different. View them as complex human beings with wants, dreams, struggles, good days and bad. The sameness helps a lot. Find how we are the same and equal.

This is a different way of saying “we all are going through something,” but the word “sameness” really clicks for me.

“We are all in this together”

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When I feel anxious ask myself..

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What can I do to improve our relationship? Is there a solution to this problem?