What are the three interesting aspects of the Iliad’s time frame ?
What are examples of information from the past myth being revealed in the epic?
Bk.3 Helen reveals she was abducted by Paris
Bk.9 Phoenix tells us about Achilles as a baby
Bk.23 Patroclus’ ghost provides background to the relationship of Achilles and him
Bk.24 Achilles tells Priam the story of his parents marriage
What are examples of reminders of the future?
Bk.6 Hector tells Andromache Priam and his people will soon be destroyed and she will be taken as a slave to Argos
Bk.22 Hector’s death signals Troys destruction
Bk.24 Andromache forsees the death of Astyanax and Thetis for Achilles
What is the strongest evidence to suggest the Iliad was a work of collection of stories added to at various times?
The structure of the epic
Examples include
- Ring composition
- Parallel episodes and characters
- Formulae
- the unifying effect of the similes
What is ring composition and what are a few examples?
Ring Composition: content is arranged in symmetrical patterns
An old man supplicates to ask for his child
- Bk.1 Chryses is sent away, Bk.24 Priam is granted his request- both examples are of the work of Apollo
Bk.1
Bk.24
Pattern: 12,1,9 and 9,1,12
Likewise in speech i.e Nestors speech in Bk.1 to Achilles and Agg
A Nestor’s tells Achilles to listen to his advie
B Tells his advice has been listened to before
C tells his story
B others listened
A Achilles accept advice
What are parallel episodes as a characteristics of the Iliad and what are some examples?
Parallel episodes- parallel descriptions, speeches, actions or characters
Parallel books
Bk.1 assembly as in Bk.19
Bk.1 Agg in wrong Ach in right, Bk. 9 the positions are reveresed
Groups of three
- Hec, Sarp and Pat all die
- Bk.6 Hect meets three women: Hec, Hel,
- Bk.9 Three diff speeches: Odysseus, Phoenix and Ajax
- Bk.24 Three laments for Hector
Characters (Hec contrast with/ mirrors)
- Paris who would rather linger than fight
- Hecotr kills Pat and Ach kills Hect
What are some examples of repeated scenes?
Warrrior arming himself
Fighting scene
- A throws spear at B, miss and kill C; A to miss B and B kill A; A miss B, B to hit but not pierce armour and A to kill B ect
Death
- Formulaic way
- Entry and exit points do vary for example it could be through the neck, belly or should ect